Re: Site for LedgerSMB Forum

[Chris Bennett <..hidden..>]

Chris Travers wrote:
> Hi;
>
> I think there are questions as to the utility of forums.  I will give 
> my list of pros/cons here.
>
> Pros:
> There is some question whether our target market will be happier on 
> forums as we move into more of the Quickbooks Basic market.  Maybe.....
>
> Cons:
> Mailing lists allow for generally better collaboration than forums.
> Unless there is a commitment from the core team to actually respond to 
> the forums, it is hard to see how they will be effective.
> If there is a commitment from the core team to respond on forums, this 
> means that it is one more resource taking away from debelopment time.
>
> Based on the above reasons, I am not entirely sure I would support 
> adding forums at this time as a part of our core infrastructure.  
> Additionally I would note that I have been active in recruiting office 
> manager types (non-techie) types to the mailing lists and have gotten 
> no complaints so far.
>
> There was actually a person who did create a web site for LedgerSMB 
> forums.
That would be me.
> The only issue was that we (on the core team) felt that the site gave 
> the impression that it was part of the infrastructure we maintain
I requested any such objections  on this list, promising  not to 
officially  announce the site until all objections were fixed.
I threw the existing site up very quickly  with no intention of leaving 
it in its ugly, rough form it has  remained in (both visually and  
editorially)
Perhaps I misunderstood somehow,  but the response seemed to basically 
be : We don't want this, please  don't waste our time.
At the same time, a clear "close the site down" was also lacking.
This is the first time that anyone has stated that the site looked too 
much a part of official infrastructure. Exactly the input I was 
requesting prior to developing the look for the website.


> and so a request was made that was never responded to:  simply state 
> specifically that this is a contributed resource and who is 
> contributing it.
I stated on this list and  on the site exactly this. If  the wording on 
the site was inappropriate, I would have been happy to remedy it.
I have  to ask. Did any core members actually go to the site? Revisit 
after  the  one requested change?
(If anyone does visit the site now,  the stated  information is now 
wrong. I have had to close my  business due to health problems.)

> This avoids the project having problems if things go badly and helps 
> contributing individuals get credit for what they do.  I personally 
> would not support endorsing a site outside the direct control of the 
> project core team which does not explicitly state who is contributing 
> and running it.
The site was meant to assist LedgerSMB, not produce income.  I was only 
seeking private core team endorsement by honoring  their requests about 
look, links and other things that  could hurt/help the project.

I had planned to delete  the site in a few weeks  due to lack of 
interest. There is an email bounce problem also which I never fixed, 
which I think is due to reverse IP rejection.
I am not qualified to answer questions about LSMB
I am still willing  to bring  the site  to a less crude state and run 
the site.
The site would now be a personal contribution  by me alone.
Now would be a good time for a clear answer: keep it or close it.

>   If these changes are made, I have no doubt that we will link to them 
> in the public community.
>
> In the mean time, this is an opportunity for those who want a larger 
> role in the community:  If you think this is important to run and are 
> willing to devote the time and attention to answering questions at 
> least at first, and want to have credit for your contributions, please 
> feel free to create a forum site and follow the simple rules above:  
> State that this is a resource contributed to the community by you.  We 
> have done the same with the wiki that Frauerpower contributed :-)
>
> Best Wishes,
> Chris Travers
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