Re: migration to sql-ledger

Just an update. I will stay on 1.2. I tried to use 1.4 for one company for 5 months but the amount of simple entry mistakes was so huge that the result was awful. The repairing of mistakes took very long time. Also, the work flow of entering the drafts first and then later post them takes itself more time than in 1.2. I know the problem is in me, not in program, but unfortunately at the moment I and 1.4 just do not fit together. Sorry Erik, for not providing promised access to 1.2 databases to test migration. I have the migration test server still running, but I have not made the decision how to provide shell access. Now I also lost the interest in migrating...

Hi,

On 05/17/2016 04:17 PM, Erik Huelsmann wrote:

Hi Raido,

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Ok. Well, I hope this discussion help us become your best choice for the next 6 years (or more)!

Yes, seems that way. Btw, I forgot to thank you for your job done with ledgersmb. Thank you!

We have tried also commercial bookkeeping software, but ware not able to afford any yet. I have tried to migrate to 1.3 also several times, but have not managed.

That's pretty unfortunate. Have you tried getting in contact with other users to get your problems resolved, like you have now? If not, maybe we can help you get your migration issues resolved this time (to 1.4, that is)? I'd be really interested in helping you out, because we really need real-world data (lots of it!) to test the migration programs. Unfortunately, we have only (very) limited amounts.

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Would you mind me helping you get the migration done? It'd be for free, but it might take me a while: I'd like to test the 1.2 migration programs with your data and improve them in such a way that your data can be migrated. That way, everybody benefits. Lets get in contact off-list to discuss the details (your data won't need to leave your VM for this, but I would need access to it).

I have not contacted anyone before. I really did not expect to get such an active response to my problems. I'd be happy to let you help me to migrate to 1.4. I'll contact in private when I have access to you ready.
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You are right. But as I am doing bookkeeping myself, I am not so much worried about fraud :).

Right :-) But the tax authorities still might: you could be sending out an invoice at a certain amount, get paid in cash, then edit the invoice to be at a lower amount and not file the remaining amount. That's good for you, but bad for the tax man, because now your counterparty has nicely high deductions, while your administration has low payments. This too counts as fraud, I'm affraid, a type of fraud that benefits the owner of the company -- so, not *internal* fraud where usually the owner of the company is kind-of the "victim". Not implying you're using the transaction editing for this, of course!

In case of very small companies bookkeeping solution is probably not an evidence for tax authorities anyway. Original documents and tax reports are. But I got your point.

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Ok. As you proposed above yourself, I can fully agree to implementing the reports to allow in- or excluding the reverse-related transactions. I think that should solve it.

Yes, that should do.

May I ask what your native language is? (I can't tell by the extension on your e-mail: .eu) I'm asking because translations exist for LedgerSMB. Not all translations are complete yet, but the site hosting the translation access Transifex(https://www.transifex.com/ledgersmb/ledgersmb/) can help find translators. Maybe that helps, or maybe you can find a few other users from the same language who together want to sponsor a translator?

I am estonian. I got translations (not sure ware those from 1.4 version or some earlier), but the translation is done for probably less than half of the program. To make my life easier I have improved translation using text editor directly in et.po file. I probably will not sponsor translator and I also do not have friends who would use ledgersmb, but I might be willing to translate some part of the program (or at least make my suggestions).

Some things would be much easier if I would know which button to press :).

Well, I personally find the English you're using to mail this list just fine, so, don't hesitate to mail this list with your questions. I'll do my best to find the answers, as long as the questions are about using the program (I can't answer any accounting questions, I'm affraid).

Be careful with your words. I may start asking questions, but I might not finish :), but I try to get all the information from ledgersmb web page before I start asking. This may take some time. For example the drafting-reporting system is confusing. I remember in some cases the drafts ware not included in reports, but without reports I can not verify is my source data correct. But do not try to answer now. I will ask when I know what I want to know.

Raido

Bye,

Erik.

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