Re: You MUST be kidding me!

[ario <..hidden..>]

On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 06:51 -0700, Chris Travers wrote:
> Hi Ario;
> 
> Checking the checkbox on the right says not to pay a specific invoice.  You
> can then click update and the invoice will disappear.

In my opinion, a form with a number of possible entries should not (if
not never) default to 'All' when a user didn't select anything yet but
(maybe inadvertently) hits an execute button (or 'Post', as in lsmb).
Nothing, except for a warning appearing like "You didn't select anything
yet", should happen in that case. See it as one of Asimov's laws, but
then for forms instead of robotics.
Of course this is just my opinion, but if a program does not adhere to
such a basic 'safety' rule, users might be in a permanent state of fear
for even possibly dropping their whole db without wanting it, if they
don't watch their steps very carefully. I think users should be allowed
to feel safe while using a program, confident that nothing will happen
as long as they don't select/choose/enter anything before hitting
'OK'/'Enter'/'Post' or whatever.

So, what the Payment form should have in my opinion, is a 'Select
All' (or 'Pay All' in lsmb) for the user who really wants to process all
entries at once, not a 'Deselect All' (or 'Disappear' as in lsmb) if you
don't want to process them all.
After all, there is already a list of 'Amount Due's, so a checkbox
saying: "select all lines for payment", subsequently filling all 'To
Pay' fields with the 'Amount Due's (like there also is a checkbox
saying: "select all lines for disappearing") should be possible, and in
my view would be more appropriate then having all Amount Due's selected
for payment by default.

Also the name 'To Pay' (one of the possible meanings of that expression
is exactly--and potentially confusingly--the same as 'Amount Due') could
be chosen a bit less ambiguously, as for instance 'Paying now', 'Going
to pay now', 'Marked for payment', or something like that.

Just my opinion, thanks for reading it.
... wait, there's more below.

> Here is what to do:
> 
> SELECT *  from payment order by id desc limit 1;
> 
> Make sure this looks right before proceding.
> 
> If you want to check the line items:

Check 600 items... wouldn't that be a lot of work? Or do I misunderstand
the procedure...
Would it be more efficient to just undo all payments done on May 21,
2013 with some SQL statement, i.e.: 

   'select * from payment where date = 2013-05-21 ...' 

or something like that, and then to re-enter by hand the (very) few (I
think it's more like 4 or so) that _were_ intended to be processed for
that date?
All transactions entered are tracked by session, and just before the
mishap a complete backup was made and a new session was started, so that
wouldn't be much (in fact very little) work.

> SELECT amount, trans_id, transdate
>      from acc_trans
>    WHERE entry_id IN (select entry_id from payment_links where payment_id =
> (select max(id) from payment));
> 
> If that shows what you expect then:
> DELETE FROM acc_trans WHERE entry_id IN (select entry_id from payment_links
> where payment_id = (select max(id) from payment));
> 
> DELETE FROM payment_links where payment_id = (select max(id) from payment);
> DELETE FROM payment where id = (select max(id) from payment);
> 
> Naturally do this in a transaction and make sure the results seem sound
> before committing.

I don't understand the 'do this in a transaction' part.
I also don't understand the 'committing'. 
Is that like typing "COMMIT <ENTER>"?

> Best Wishes,
> Chris Travers
> 
> PS, you may find cash/vouchers/payments more to your liking than the single
> payment interface.  Just make sure to approve the payment batches.

My intention is just to process just one or a few payments, not to 'run batches'.
I'm aware of the fact that this might sound a bit like nagging, or like
resisting innovation or whatever, maybe just an insecure user, but when
I want to do something, and a screen pops up asking me to 'start new
batch', then it already scares me off as in: 
"What am I going to mess up _this_ time when creating a 'batch', and
what is this batch going to do. And if I decide to not want to 'execute'
the batch, will it ever go away, or will it stay there forever?"

Sorry for your time, thanks for your guidance.
Ario


> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:41 AM, ario <..hidden..> wrote:
> 
> > Boys! What are you doing to me!
> >
> > I wanted to process a payment.
> > So I go to 'Cash|Payment', give a 'Vendor Name' and click Continue.
> > Ok, there comes the list with 600 [sic!] (see what's coming??) payments
> > due.
> > I select ONE payment, open the drop down, select the check box following
> > the 'Source' field and click 'Update'.
> > Ok, nothing happens (after all this is 1.3.29), so I click on 'Post'!
> > BAM! 600 transactions paid! Disappeared!
> > No! Not paid! Just disappeared, lsmb THINKS I paid them.
> > wt.?
> >
> > You can't be serious with this.
> > In the previous lsmb I used checking a checkbox meant paying THIS ONE,
> > not all!
> >
> > <despair>
> > Oh man...
> >
> > .
> > .
> > </despair>
> >
> > So, now what?
> >
> > Is there any way to roll this back?
> > Or do I have to re-install lsmb, import the latest backup and re-enter
> > all transactions after the last pre-backup session?
> >
> > Thanks for this exciting experience :)
> >
> >
> >
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