Re: How can I help?

["Adam Thompson" <..hidden..>]

This is going to sound like criticism, no matter how I word it.  :-( 
Either of the LSMB team or of SF.  Well, I guess I *do* mean to criticize 
SF in this case, but not so much the LSMB dev team even if it sounds that 
way.

The tracker features on SF for LSMB are so cluttered or backlogged, 
they're useless.

My initial impression from the SF tracker functions (bug reports, feature 
requests) was that the core dev team was defunct but there was still a 
large user base.

Then I checked SVN, and realized the project was still alive.

On the flip side, trying to actually *use* those SF features is 
exquisitely painful, much more so since the complete UI overhaul.  Every 
time I want to do so, it takes me two or three tries and 6 or 7 minutes to 
find the "Add Comment" button.  Filtering is difficult and slow.  Browsing 
is equally difficult and slow.  Request management is, for all intents and 
purposes, impractical bordering on unfeasible.

This is one area of SF that I wouldn't shed any tears over losing.  Even 
TRAC has a better interface now for this stuff now, much as I detest it! 
Bugzilla isn't bad from a usability perspective, although it has holes you 
can drive tractor-trailers through.  I don't know what features Github 
offers, so I can't offer any opinions there.  I'm deeply unimpressed with 
(and eternally confused by) Launchpad's developer services.

Regardless - the impression the SF tracker gives is quite bad.  I had more 
or less forgotten about it, as the -dev list and the IRC channel are both 
fairly active and certainly quite responsive.

Is it possible to archive and/or simply remove the trackers from the SF 
project?

-Adam Thompson
 <..hidden..>
 (204) 291-7950


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luke [mailto:..hidden..]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 21:34
> To: Development discussion for LedgerSMB
> Subject: Re: [Ledger-smb-devel] How can I help?
>
> Ian
>
> I can't tell you why someone hasn't answered this yet, or why your
> patches
> are being ignored (except maybe time to review, in that latter case).
>
> However, have you tried the IRC channel #ledgersmb to talk to the devs
> about any of this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Luke
>
>
> Ian Goodacre wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have been experimenting with LedgerSMB from the trunk of SVN. I
> have
> > no prior experience with LedgerSMB, SQL Ledger or accounting, but I
> am
> > interested to find an accounting package I can use for my small
> contract
> > services business.
> >
> > Not surprisingly, as it is development code, not yet released, I
> have
> > found a few bugs (at least, I think they are bugs).
> >
> > So that I can carry on my investigation and learning, I have "fixed"
> the
> > bugs that I have found. Of course, the quality of my fixes is
> limited by
> > my lack of knowledge of LedgerSMB, accounting and programming in
> > general.
> >
> > Not wanting to bother you all with what might very well be nonsense
> or
> > irrelevant to where you are heading with LedgerSMB, I have not
> posted
> > much to this mailing list, though I have been reading it for a
> while.
> >
> > But I have been posting patches to the SourceForge tracker for
> LedgerSMB
> > and I am beginning to wonder if this is helpful. While a few of
> these
> > have been applied to SVN, most of them have not been and I see no
> > updates or comments to many of the tracker items.
> >
> > So, I wonder if my submitting patches to the tracker is helpful and
> > whether there is something else or more (or less) I could do that
> would
> > be more helpful. I don't want to fill the tracker with unhelpful
> > submissions nor waste anyones time with them.
> >
> > My apologies if my question seems rude - I don't intend it to be. I
> > appreciate the generosity of all concerned and recognize no one has
> any
> > obligation to me.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ian Goodacre